1980 xs1100j in Nebraska

[SteveK]

http://omaha.craigslist.org/mcy/2560397106.html

[cywelchjr]

Interesting, never heard of one of those XS11J's . Sounds pretty rare to me.

[motoman]

yuppers, CY, imported to NE one yr./one-off..............lol.

[xsroadrunner]

Bike is overpriced...engine runs but it dont drive= non runner....$500

[cywelchjr]

That was my thought. Mine was $800 running, with two fairings and all. I did have to replace the reg/rect shortly after I got it, but I rode it home the night I payed for it.

If you can't ride it home, it's not a runner.

[SteveK]

Cy,
I don't know how they're priced where you are, but 4 years ago, I gave $2000 for mine and at the time, it blue booked for $2200. Exellent shape & low mileage. Even now, blue book is $2000

http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycle...S1100SH/Values

The bike in the ad has got to be worth somewhere between $600 & $1250
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycle...XS1100G/Values

and of course, almost everything is negotiable.

Steve

[cywelchjr]

Cy,
I don't know how they're priced where you are, but 4 years ago, I gave $2000 for mine and at the time, it blue booked for $2200. Exellent shape & low mileage. Even now, blue book is $2000

http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycle...S1100SH/Values

The bike in the ad has got to be worth somewhere between $600 & $1250
http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycle...XS1100G/Values

and of course, almost everything is negotiable.

Steve

Unless your bike is show quality it can't be better than the second level, and most daily riders can't be better than good at 30 years old. The bike in that ad just from the picture is at BEST somewhere between the middle and next to lowest categories. As the description in the link you posted says, a good bike is a runner, and that bike fails that test, "runs but doesn't go" means it's got some major mechanical problems. I've seen very few "concours quality" bikes on this site, and that's what those links state are the ONLY bikes that qualify for that top price, and that customization actually detracts from the value of the bike. I know mine isn't show quality, and not having seen yours I don't know the condition yours is, but they sure don't go for those kind of prices here, certainly not in non-rideable condition. As I said, I paid pretty close to market for mine, and yes, really nice restorations can go for more, but it costs far more than you can get for them to get them there (the paint job alone to get to concours condition would cost more than my bike would be worth). As I say, I've seen show quality bikes, and I know MINE sure isn't anywhere near one, but it's in good mechanical condition overall.

[SteveK]

Cy -

If you got yours for $800, that's fantastic.

Again, I bought mine under blue book from a neighbor of mine. He's
a shade tree mechanic, is always wrenching on something.
There were three of us that wanted that bike and we all knew how he treated it.

Did I overpay ?

I've had so much %^$#@ fun on that bike that it really doesn't make any difference.

As far as NADA's definition of "EXCELLENT". Here it is:

Excellent — A very correct and original (even if it shows the patina of its age) or an exceptionally well-restored motorcycle. This category is reserved for concours or show quality machines only, in which everything on the machine is fully functional and operates as new. All equipment is original, new old stock (NOS) factory replacements or uses of excellent quality reproductions parts.

*Over restored machines (custom paint, over polishing or chroming) do not fit in this category as those activities detracts from the originality of the machine.

So a bike does not have to be restored to be in Excellent condition.

As far as mine goes, it was sitting in someone's garage for 20 years and my neighbor rescued it. If it's not excellent, then it's awful close.

Take care.

[DGXSER]

Steve,

The initial point of the ribbing is that the letter after the XS1100 represents the year it was made, the 80 year is the G year (78=E, 79=F, 80=G, 81=H). Yours is the Special model, so you have an SG, replace the J with an SG.

As to NADA and KBB, they are guides to what something is worth. I can take the same bike from here in Cincinnati, to 2 hours east in the middle of no mans land Ohio and it will drop in price by 20%. I am willing to bet I could take the same bike to somewhere like Vegas or Chicago or similar larger city or more expensive cost of living area and the price could about double. Those guides also do not acocunt for the fact that if someone has their heart set on owning an SG, they may be willing to pay double those numbers. Value is like beauty, all in the eye of the beholder. And if the beholder does not see enough value in it to meet or exceed what it takes to convince the present owner not to own it anymore, well, time for another beholder. Having just been through the process of finding a replacement vehicle, it is a very interesting experience to see the variation in quality and condition available in a given price range.

[cywelchjr]

Cy -

If you got yours for $800, that's fantastic.

Again, I bought mine under blue book from a neighbor of mine. He's
a shade tree mechanic, is always wrenching on something.
There were three of us that wanted that bike and we all knew how he treated it.

Did I overpay ?

I've had so much %^$#@ fun on that bike that it really doesn't make any difference.

As far as NADA's definition of "EXCELLENT". Here it is:

Excellent — A very correct and original (even if it shows the patina of its age) or an exceptionally well-restored motorcycle. This category is reserved for concours or show quality machines only, in which everything on the machine is fully functional and operates as new. All equipment is original, new old stock (NOS) factory replacements or uses of excellent quality reproductions parts.

*Over restored machines (custom paint, over polishing or chroming) do not fit in this category as those activities detracts from the originality of the machine.

So a bike does not have to be restored to be in Excellent condition.

As far as mine goes, it was sitting in someone's garage for 20 years and my neighbor rescued it. If it's not excellent, then it's awful close.

Take care.

I might point out that that it mentions that the top level is reserved for concours or show level machines, and I doubt very many machines on this site qualify for that (some do, but many of the really pretty ones fall into the "over restored" category) and anything that was sitting in a garage for 20 years is unlikely to be show quality without significant work, as in restoration. That said, your bike is worth to YOU what it's worth to you, and only you can determine what that worth is, and others may well not agree with you, and if you go to sell it you might find that others don't value it as highly as you do. That said, someone would have to give me far more than the NADA numbers to get me to sell mine to them.

Oh, BTW, the fairing on that bike, according to NADA detracts from the value not adds (of course this is only partly true) and can be partly true, because if you don't want a bike with a fairing, you now have to source 30 year old parts to put the headlight and turn signals back on it to take that fairing off, cause it didn't come from the factory that way (that alone would remove it from the concours category, those guys set the standard for anal about how things have to be perfect and just exactly like it came from the factory).

But as was stated by someone else, our initial ridicule was over the fact that there is no such thing as an XS1100J, and that being a 1980, would be and SG.

[SteveK]

Gentlemen -

If you've been paying attention at all, I have posted over a dozen XS11s in this forum. None of them were/are mine.

Like I've said, I've had alot of fun on mine, and I just hate the thought of one being parted out. When I see one on CL, I post it here so that if it fits someone's needs or budget, they can keep one of these fine old machines from being scrapped.

I don't verify or check for accuracy, I just post it where others can see it.

I'm just tickled to death that I have been able to give you two so much entertainment.

Have a good one.

[cywelchjr]

Gentlemen -

If you've been paying attention at all, I have posted over a dozen XS11s in this forum. None of them were/are mine.

Like I've said, I've had alot of fun on mine, and I just hate the thought of one being parted out. When I see one on CL, I post it here so that if it fits someone's needs or budget, they can keep one of these fine old machines from being scrapped.

I don't verify or check for accuracy, I just post it where others can see it.

I'm just tickled to death that I have been able to give you two so much entertainment.

Have a good one.

I don't think any of us thought it was your bike. But I'm not sure why you were so offended when we commented about the seller advertising the wrong model, and that we felt the bike was significantly overpriced for a non-runner. I don't know anything about your bike, but the only person that knows what it's worth to you is you, and if you feel you got a good deal you did. If your happy with what you got then it's all good. But you shouldn't get bent out of shape when we feel that someone is asking too much for what amounts to a beater. A guys been trying to sell one here for quite some time for like 1500 that looks a LOT nicer than that one, and nobody is buying. Yet the NADA listing for this area gives about the same value, but they don't go for that, not pretty much at all.

I'm hoping that your able to save at least a few from being parted out, as I too hate to see it happen, but I can't do 2/3 of the way across the country to buy a bike for over twice what I paid for mine that's not as nice as mine. On top of that, being partially laid off, I just don't have the money right now.

[neJeff]

I don't think any of us thought it was your bike. But I'm not sure why you were so offended when we commented about the seller advertising the wrong model, and that we felt the bike was significantly overpriced for a non-runner. I don't know anything about your bike, but the only person that knows what it's worth to you is you, and if you feel you got a good deal you did. If your happy with what you got then it's all good. But you shouldn't get bent out of shape when we feel that someone is asking too much for what amounts to a beater. A guys been trying to sell one here for quite some time for like 1500 that looks a LOT nicer than that one, and nobody is buying. Yet the NADA listing for this area gives about the same value, but they don't go for that, not pretty much at all.

I'm hoping that your able to save at least a few from being parted out, as I too hate to see it happen, but I can't do 2/3 of the way across the country to buy a bike for over twice what I paid for mine that's not as nice as mine. On top of that, being partially laid off, I just don't have the money right now.

Can I please jump in here. I saw this and thought about buying it for my wife (its about 70 miles from me). It does run & drive, HE just doesn't drive it, get it. That said I too think its high, even for a runner. Paid $700 for mine 2 months ago...still might buy this though..for fun...if the price gets lower!

[cywelchjr]

Can I please jump in here. I saw this and thought about buying it for my wife (its about 70 miles from me). It does run & drive, HE just doesn't drive it, get it. That said I too think its high, even for a runner. Paid $700 for mine 2 months ago...still might buy this though..for fun...if the price gets lower!

I tell ya, if I was trying to get that kind of money for a bike, I would at least wash it (or at least give it a good wiping down with a damp cloth to get the dust off it) before I took a picture of it for the ad. I mean come on, at least put your best foot forward. You only get one chance to make a first impression.

[neJeff]

I tell ya, if I was trying to get that kind of money for a bike, I would at least wash it (or at least give it a good wiping down with a damp cloth to get the dust off it) before I took a picture of it for the ad. I mean come on, at least put your best foot forward. You only get one chance to make a first impression.

Totally agree with that although I am familiar with this town and was through there 3 weeks ago and it's likely the dirtiest/dustiest town on the prairie. Dirt and gravel roads in the hot summer are not good if you want your stuff to stay clean!