Why not another TIRE Thread! :)

[LakeOber]

I just got my Shinko 777's installed about 3 weeks ago. I haven't ridden my bike at all since they have been installed except to ride it home. Today I pushed it out of my shed to work on it. After I worked on it, I backed it back in to the shed but have to turn my handlebars sharp to get it back in the shed. I turned the handlebars sharp while backing it in, and the tire felt like it dug in to the rough uneven concrete pretty hard. After getting off the bike and coming back a few minutes later, I saw that my front tire was about half flat. I checked the ground, but there where no sharp objects. I pumped the tire back up to max psi and sprayed it down with soapy water, no leaks that I could see at all. I checked the tire again several hours later and it still looks fine. Could I maybe have broke the bead a bit when turning the tire while barely moving on the uneven concrete? If it doesn't get any lower, should I be fine to ride on it? Also, the warmest it has been since I got the tire installed is about 50 degrees. I sure hope I didn't mess my brand new tire up

[Bonz]

Motoman, that is for sure about having our ideas and feelings about what works for us! You quoted and agreed about "The cheap ones are Cheng Shin tires", and say you tried a set 35 years ago. I was pointing out that is a long time ago and those tires would have nothing in common with a tire made today. Therefore using a 35 year old comparison can't paint a complete picture.

With that said, no need to talk motor oils. . We definitely know what we like and near as I can tell, every XS1100 that is still running started life using oil that pales to modern oil fit for use in a motorcycle in terms of protection and quality.
Same with tires, IMO.

[motoman]

No generalization, just thought since that brand was brought up by Speed, would throw out a bit of history along with some history and use of the Dunlop E3's.
Other than that, tires are kinda like oil, as every one will give you a different personnel preference..

[Bonz]

35 years ago? You're talking 1982. What does anything from 35 years ago have to do with a single tire we would put on our bikes today? Nada. Shinko tires are being made using Yokohama facilities. I am sure not all tires are made the same it's obvious we don't need to debate that. The fact is Shinko is not a bad or dangerous or otherwise faulty brand. Generalizations just don't work in this day and age based on my personal experience.

[motoman]

The really cheap ones are cheng shin tires.

Have to agree. Tried a set of those 35ys. ago on my Venturer. Well, you definitely got what cha' paid for. They went out of round, wore more in one area on the circumference than the other, wore one side off the center more than other side, on and on for the bad. Bout 2,000mi. and they went to the trash. Put on a set of Dunlop E3's as they were just coming on the market then, and 17" for rear was no issue getting. In fact, back then, all manufacturer's tires were still the nice conventional size, not this 90 series of today. Back then, that first year of production, Dunlop guaranteed the rear E3 for 10,000mi. Well, that guarantee was abolished by Dunlop after first year of its production. Still was an awesome tire for the factory full dresser Venturer as it had a really high weight carrying payload rating. But Dunlop hasn't made it in a rear 17" for a few decades now.

[Bonz]

Then let's be specific to WHICH tire, and not bash an entire brand with generalizations. 230's work well on the 80SG. Rain or shine.

[IanDMacDonald]

Shinko tires feel like they don't grip the road as well in rain. They are made of a hard rubber that can last longer.

The last Shinko tires I got gave me a slight shake in the front...could have had another cause, but I doubt it.

One of the MANY complaints of the 712's, that pushed me away from buying them. It's not just a few people, it's across many forums.

[speedlimit85]

The really cheap ones are cheng shin tires.

[Bonz]

How much harder is the rubber, based on a study done somewhere or in Shinko advertising?

[speedlimit85]

Shinko tires feel like they don't grip the road as well in rain. They are made of a hard rubber that can last longer.

The last Shinko tires I got gave me a slight shake in the front...could have had another cause, but I doubt it.

[IanDMacDonald]

What experiences from using Shinko tires makes them a no-go for you?

For me personally, it was a gamble I was not willing to take, but the Shinko Ravens are amazing on the Triumph.

[Bonz]

What experiences from using Shinko tires makes them a no-go for you?

[speedlimit85]

I don't usually come out with this kind of fire however this above post is ridiculous.

Have you ridden a mile on a Shinko Tire? The post drips with armchair analysis. We don't tend to talk down on stuff like that around here. "Stinko" is not the mature way that most of us would ease into a discussion on our 16th post.

I run Shinko 712's or 230's on all of my older metric bikes and have run two sets of Verge and Raven's on my ZRX 1200. For sure the current Pirelli Angel GT's on my ZRX 1200 are a better riding and handling tire however a rear lasts 6,000 miles, a Shinko Raven or Verge lasts 10,000. From a function standpoint Shinko leaves nothing on the table.

Is the Dunlop 404 the tire being referred to? Tread life is low for the relative price paid, however the tire never let me down. And neither has any Shinko Tire.

You're right, that was immature. It's Shinko.

[CJPetersen2000]

I have a Shinko 777 on rear of my '84 FJ1100 (150/80-16) two year now and 4000+miles this is an excellent tire for sport riding. grips and wears well. up front I'm running a 712 because they don't offer a 120/80-16 in a 777. on my xs1100 I'm running Shinko 230s front and rear I havn't put many miles on these yet but they seem like they'll be really good on the xs. My son has 230s on his '77 RD 400 and loves them! No reason for Shinko to get a bad rap...they make great tires that are affordable, and durable! Yes I'd put a 777 on an XS1100

[IanDMacDonald]

I don't usually come out with this kind of fire however this above post is ridiculous.

Have you ridden a mile on a Shinko Tire? The post drips with armchair analysis. We don't tend to talk down on stuff like that around here. "Stinko" is not the mature way that most of us would ease into a discussion on our 16th post.

I run Shinko 712's or 230's on all of my older metric bikes and have run two sets of Verge and Raven's on my ZRX 1200. For sure the current Pirelli Angel GT's on my ZRX 1200 are a better riding and handling tire however a rear lasts 6,000 miles, a Shinko Raven or Verge lasts 10,000. From a function standpoint Shinko leaves nothing on the table.

Is the Dunlop 404 the tire being referred to? Tread life is low for the relative price paid, however the tire never let me down. And neither has any Shinko Tire.

Got the Raven 009's on my Daytona. Love 'em!