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  • JasonRedbeard
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    Very true, Fred. And as cywelchjr pointed out, all of those (except the eco-freak) can be covered by a bike with big saddlebags, for a lot less money.

    Which is why I find myself on an XS11 forum instead of a Smart car forum.

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  • fredintoon
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    It's a limited market

    Originally posted by JasonRedbeard
    .....but I still wouldn't drive one.
    Hi Jason,
    ask yourself, who would? A purchaser would need to be someone who:-
    Only ever carried one passenger.
    Never bought more than 2 day's worth of groceries at one time.
    Had a business that involved high mileage delivery of small packages.
    Or was a wealthy eco-freak.

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  • JasonRedbeard
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    .....but I still wouldn't drive one.

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  • JasonRedbeard
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    ...and in both cases the passenger cabin retains its size and shape. The dashboard doesn't come back and pin the passengers. Nobody gets crushed by an engine block sitting in their lap. And the Smart vs. the C-class is a HUGE mass imbalance...of COURSE the Smart is going to take the brunt of that hit.

    Yaris vs. Camry. Watch how the drivers door, windshield, and A-pillar of the Yaris get shoved back into the driver. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHiYS...feature=relmfu

    I'd take a Smart over a Bel Air in a frontal any day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4f...eature=related

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  • crazy steve
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    Better yet, this one....

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  • natemoen
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    Originally posted by JasonRedbeard
    You'd be surprised how well that "tridion cell" that they're built around holds up to collisions...even head-on...

    But I still wouldn't drive one.
    Watch this and again how well they hold up!

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  • JasonRedbeard
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    You'd be surprised how well that "tridion cell" that they're built around holds up to collisions...even head-on...

    But I still wouldn't drive one.

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  • crazy steve
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    Originally posted by cywelchjr
    You know, on the subject of smart cars, I saw one the other day, and realized that the wheelbase on those is shorter than the wheelbase of our bikes . Frankly I'm not sure our bikes don't weigh more and have more horsepower as well. And frankly the seating capacity is the same ....
    I'm sure the HP is more on a XS, weight is probably more than a bike. I've seen a couple of these on I-5 in heavy traffic, and that didn't seem too smart I can't believe these would do well in a multi-vehicle sandwitch...

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  • cywelchjr
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    Originally posted by fredintoon
    Hi Jim,
    yeah, it's clowns like him that give c***sucking a bad name.
    And the answer is so effin' simple and don't cost nothin':-
    Allow any vehicle that can park end-on to multi-park at any parking meter, (say 2 solos and a Smart car) each man in plugs the meter even if there's still time on it.
    If the meter runs out, everybody gets a ticket.
    You know, on the subject of smart cars, I saw one the other day, and realized that the wheelbase on those is shorter than the wheelbase of our bikes . Frankly I'm not sure our bikes don't weigh more and have more horsepower as well. And frankly the seating capacity is the same . And with my Vetter touring pack I believe I have more storage capacity. And with your sidecar you have both more seating capacity AND more storage capacity .

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  • fredintoon
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    Originally posted by hamjam
    Hi Check the Sat. Toronto Star wheels section for Steve Bonds very good reply to this large pile of el toro poo poo from tweedledumb and tweedledumber . oh sorry our duly elected mare ( yes it is spelled as horse , because he is part of one, south end northbound) idiot ,goof and other words I am not allowed to use without being chastized by the Moderators here, go ahead ask me how I really feel
    Jim
    Hi Jim,
    yeah, it's clowns like him that give c***sucking a bad name.
    And the answer is so effin' simple and don't cost nothin':-
    Allow any vehicle that can park end-on to multi-park at any parking meter, (say 2 solos and a Smart car) each man in plugs the meter even if there's still time on it.
    If the meter runs out, everybody gets a ticket.

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  • Lonerider62
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    I live in a small town in Northern Michigan now and our parking for short term (a couple hours) is free, long term is a bit more but if you're willing to walk a block or two you can park on the street for free. When I used to live in the Detroit area I hated to go into Detroit on business and get stuck for $10/day. I suppose it's a lot more today but you who live in the larger cities just have to "man-up" and pay the piper I guess. The first time I went to Toronto on something other than a motorcycle it was in my 3/4 ton GMC. I felt quite out of place going down Young St. You guys do have pretty decent public trans though. I was in Washington D.C. lately, stayed out by Abdrews AFB and rode the train in. Problem was there was no parking at the Metro station by 9:00 a.m. so we had to walk the mile from the motel to the metro staion. There were more cars parked at that single metro staion than I think there are in all of northern Michigan

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  • cywelchjr
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    Wow! That is just obscene! They want people to get out of cars and such, but then make alternate vehicles painful to use as well then what do they expect? If they want people to use high density vehicles, they need to do things to encourage their use, not discourage them.

    Of course most levels of Govt are scraping for ways to make money to fund services, but that's a different discussion for a different place.

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  • DAVINCI
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    OK, you wanna hear sick? NYC has been instituting bike lanes (bicycle) for a couple of years now. Almost every major street in Manhattan has them. I finally figured out why. Look what i saw while parking my car:

    This is NOT motorcycle parking, it's BICYCLE PARKING:

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  • b.walker5
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    Thats the way it works here too. Dedicated parks for bikes are free, parking in car parks you pay. The council looked at charging bikes a fee a few years back but decided that the cost benefit ratio didnt stack up and they abandoned it.

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  • cywelchjr
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    Around here they try to encourage public transit and vehicles that use less parking, so they provide MC parking downtown for free. Not a lot of it, generally about 4 spaces per block, and if you park in normal spaces they you have to pay like a car, but they DO allow space sharing by multiple bikes. As a matter of fact, they actually give credits to shopping centers who provide MC as well as bicycle parking. Of course then you get the idiots who park their cars in the MC spaces. Downtown they get a parking ticket, but in the shopping centers generally nothing happens, other than the HD types with tats and such will do nasty things to their cars (Yes, I've seen marks on the cars and such, not seen slashed tires YET, but expect to soon).

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